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Can I still call myself a Goth?

I know that 3am probably isn’t the most auspicious time to be writing a blog, but I’ve been meaning to scribble something down this week and have only managed an article on why buying furniture at auction can be a good idea. I’m half awake and have had the need to write something, so I thought I would put some ideas down.

So I wanted to ask whether I can still call myself a Goth? I’ve already come to the conclusion that I can’t, but it has been too big a part of my identity in my early adult years to entirely shrug off the label. That’s why I refer to myself as a “retired” goth. I don’t want to go into the whys and wherefores of how I came to call myself a goth in the first place – that’s a very subjective academic definition for me (I’ll try to put up some of my old essays at some point to prove a point). Suffice to say that I ran / managed a successful Goth club in Leeds in the late 1990s and went to all the goth nights as a student and the Whitby Goth Weekends every November for about 5 years.

In that capacity, I was also interviewed by Paul Hodkinson for his PhD thesis (later edited and published as Goth: Identity Style and Subculture), but my experience as a club manager and views seemed to be at odds to his pre-designated ideas. At some point I’ll scribble a critique of his thesis, but now isn’t the time for that. Anyway, he recently returned to some of his interviewees from his thesis (probably about ten years on) in order to gain a bit more understanding on the subculture. I suppose I’ve been thinking about my own identity as a retired goth and what it means to me (I’ll come to why I use that term to describe myself in a little while).

So I suppose the next two questions which I want to ask are: “In what ways can I still describe myself as a Goth” and it’s reverse: “In what ways can I no longer describe myself as a Goth?”. Those will lead to further questions which I will answer along the way.

To begin to answer the first question, “In what ways can I still describe myself as a Goth?”, I turn immediately to my enduring taste in Goth music. My formative years (from about the age of 14-15) where when I began listening to Goth and alternative music. Band such as The Sisters of Mercy, The Cure and Fields of the Nephilim were among the first that i began to explore. I was by no means an identikit Goth – there were certain “accepted” bands which were apparently de rigeur, but I was discerning. I never did “Goth-by-numbers” which is an accusation which could be levelled at some of my less critically aware peers. But as usual, I’m getting away from the subject at hand. I still listen to, and love, all of the old music. And I would say that it still forms part of my identity as an adult. You only need to look at the endurance of Radio 4’s “Desert Island Discs” to gauge how important music is to people’s identities. That’s probably a blog post in itself…

The second most important aspect of my identity as a retired Goth is related to my continued love of the music, and that is a rejection of mainstream / mass / popular culture. This is quite a difficult concept to adequately quantify without going into a separate academic essay in itself. I am aware that my patterns of consumption of mainstream culture are markedly different to those of my Goth peer group. I no longer have a television, a conscious choice rather than one of financial or any other criteria. I am a prolific user of Facebook & YouTube and a recent convert to twitter. I am also a loyal listener to radio 4, from the Today Program through to Front Row and occasionally beyond (yes, that includes The Archers and You & Yours!)… This is just a broad picture of my consumption patterns of contemporary media, and is not intended to give an exhaustive description. While certain aspects fit the usual patterns for some of my peers, others are markedly different.

The last major point in which I can still call myself a Goth is in the maintenance of friendships and relationships with my Goth peers. Although my social circles have expanded since my young adult years (as one would expect), I still maintain good friendships with long-standing friends in the subculture. This is perhaps a less definable aspect of my identity as a Goth, but relationships and friendships within the subculture formed an important part of my inclusion in the social group and should not be discounted. I suspect that this idae is one which could do with a bit more thought, reflection and investigation…

So, those are the ways in which I would say I am still a Goth. The ways in which I am no longer a Goth are a bit more obvious and tend to relate more to activities than to ideas of personal identity. The most obvious is that, although I still listen to the same music, I no longer attend Goth nightclubs or gigs. This is a major part of the subculture, as clubs and gigs are the main social gatherings for Goths. This also should give a clue as to the nature of the subculture, but I’m not going to go into that today.

The other major way in which I can no longer call myself a Goth is the fact that I no longer adopt the dress conventions of the subculture. While I am happy to acknowledge the ways in which Goth styles of dress rupture the conventions of mainstream / mass / popular cultural styles, I don’t feel comfortable making those sort of cultural statements through my style. I still like to take care in my appearance and put thought into what I wear, but I try to distinguish myself in other, more subtle ways. An emphasis on quality and an elegant style is one of the ways in which I try to set myself apart from the conventions of my more closely age-related peers these days. After all, who wants to see a middle-aged man desperately trying to cling on to the fading light of his youth? It’s just not a pretty sight!

The reasons for my particular choice in consigning active participation in the subculture to history range from a boredom of the music (which I perceive as derivative and cliché-ridden), to finding the subculture somewhat limiting to my maturing identity. Having said that, I still feel that my time as a Goth moulded my identity and is something which played a formative role in creating the person I am today. To say that I am a “former Goth” would be to deny this role. Equally, to label myself an “Old Goth” places too much emphasis on a continuing active participation in all the subculture’s streams. So I use the term “retired Goth”. I feel that this adequately describes my current position and relationship with the subculture, and it is one which I am proud to use.


Christmas shopping playlist

Well, it’s only two more shopping days until Christmas. All my presents are bought & wrapped. Those which need to be shipped off to various members of the family are already arrived. Most of the main course foods are done (I’ll spend a little time going through the menu at some point if I can be bothered…). There is, however, a lot of food shopping left to do. I have a list, so I’m ahead of the game. My wife is working tomorrow, which leaves the shopping to me. I’m expecting it to be really busy, what with Christmas Eve falling on a Saturday. Having tonsilitis and a throat which looks like it’s a result of some sort of evil biological experiment, I’m expecting tomorrow’s shopping to be something of a trial of endurance. I’ve decided that the sensible approach is one of taking my time and trying to enjoy the experience. Or at least shut myself off from the rest of the hectic masses… With that in mind, I have spent the last hour or so with a cup of tea and a warming shot of brandy, loading some shopping tunes onto my (non-specific, unbranded, generic) mp3 player. So this is what I’ll be listening to tomorrow, while I brave the masses in that pre-Christmas scrum:

  • Ace of Spades: Motörhead
  • Atomic: Blondie
  • Basket Case: Green Day
  • Bug Powder Dust (Featuring Justin Warfield): Bomb The Bass
  • Call Me (Theme from “American Gigolo”): Blondie
  • Come Out And Play: The Offspring
  • Debaser: Pixies
  • Disobedience: K.M.F.D.M.
  • Do You Love Me?: Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
  • Don Quixote: Nik Kershaw
  • Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn’t’ve)?: The Buzzcocks Fatherland (Eldritch And Orpheus Remix): Die Krupps
  • Fear Loves This Place: Julian Cope
  • Fighting Trousers: Professor Elemental
  • Gay Bar: Electric Six
  • God Is God: Laibach
  • The Good, The Bad and The Ugly – The Ecstasy of Gold: Ennio Morricone
  • Got the Time: Anthrax
  • Had A Dad: Jane’s Addiction
  • Here Comes Your Man: Pixies
  • Hey Ya! (Radio Mix/Club Mix): OutKast
  • I Believe In A Thing Called Love: The Darkness
  • I Will Refuse (12″ Version): Pailhead
  • Kill The Poor: Dead Kennedys
  • Let’s go to Bed (milk mix): The Cure
  • Little Fluffy Clouds (Ambient Mix 1): The Orb
  • Look Away: Big Country
  • My Boyfriend’s Back: Alice Donut
  • No One Knows: Queens Of The Stone Age
  • On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: Propellerheads
  • One Great Thing: Big Country
  • Orange Crush: R.E.M.
  • The Prophet: CJ Bolland
  • The Riddle: Nik Kershaw
  • Shine On The House Of Love
  • Shoppers’ Paradise: Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine
  • So What: Ministry
  • Spybreak!: Propellerheads
  • Strict Machine: Goldfrapp
  • Superbeast: Rob Zombie
  • Swamp Thing: The Grid
  • Too Drunk To Fuck: Dead Kennedys
  • Union Of The Snake: Duran Duran
  • We Come 1: Faithless
  • 19-2000: Gorillaz